Showing posts with label Jane Doe. Show all posts
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Saturday, January 12, 2008

JANE DOE OUTS HERSELF...(with an INTERESTING UPDATE !!!)



Although having taken great pains to hide JANE DOE'S identity, my efforts were all for nought.

JANE DOE has outed herself.....on Jimmy Moore's forum.

JANE DOE is SHIPHIPS.

From Jimmy Moore's forum:

"shiphips
Jan 11 2008, 11:24am

Hello all. I am the shiphips that is of such interest here. I am a Kimkins member and see several of you think I'm some poor starving soul that Kimmer is taking advantage of. I decided, after reading all of your posts, to make myself visible so I can answer any questions you might have.

I will be respectful to all of you and hope to receive the same from you.

If you have any concerns or questions for me I would be more than glad to address them.

shiphips"

[SNIP]

"Jimmy Moore
Jan 11 2008, 4:41pm

Hey Shiphips and welcome to my forum. We are nothing but a loving community here at my "Livin' La Vida Low-Carb Discussion" forum, so there's no need to worry about anyone being disrespectful. If you ever any questions about the healthy low-carb lifestyle, then I'm happy to help as someone who has been living this way successfully for the past four years. Best wishes to you in your continued journey to better health! "

"shiphips
Jan 11 2008, 5:42pm

I am eating healthy, Kimkins is not an unhealthy woe, just as Atkins is not or any other low carb diet. I've been on and off lc diets for six years, I've really just come here to defend myself, I originally signed up because I saw a dear friend of mine Merci here (but I've not heard from her), then I started reading the posts here and found that I am the 'topic' of concern. I just want to clear the record. Kimkins is a wonderful woe, there are many many very happy people there.

shiphips"

"Jimmy Moore
Jan 12 2008, 1:41pm

THANKS for sharing your comments shiphips. But this is neither the time nor the place to debate the Kimkins diet. You can do that elsewhere, but we're not gonna do that here. It is well-documented that this "diet" plan you support was created by a morbidly obese scam artist with no background in nutrition or medicine.

The true low-carb diet consists of a high-fat, moderate protein, low-carb diet where calories are not a factor. Sure, there are SLIGHT variations from this, but that's the basis of Atkins, Protein Power, Barry Groves, and the other reputable low-carb plans that are out there. These are legitimate plans to be discussed--but not Kimkins...at least not here.

Feel free to open your own forum or blog to tout how Kimkins has helped you, but it's not gonna happen here. We have people here recovering from the severe health damage that was done to them because of this dangerous low-cal/low-fat diet fraud, so I will not permit you to post your positive feedback about it.

THANKS for sharing and best wishes in your weight and health journey."

"shiphips
Jan 12 2008, 1:56pm

Wait, I was bashed here and I am simply here to let everybody know that I'm perfectly fine. I should be allowed to do that. I could care less who believes in Kimmer or not, I'm not her mouth piece, but I will defend myself. I'm not here to debat Kimkins, I'm here to clear up the air concerning my health and the comments made on your site. What you are saying is that it is ok for your members to bash me but not ok for me to defend myself...?"

"wishbone
Jan 12 2008, 3:36pm

And the voice of reason and intelligence is heard!!! You rock JIMMY!!!!!!!"

Shiphips, if you read this, please do not believe a word Heidi Diaz/Kimmer tells you. She is a scam artist, a fraud, and an admitted liar, and she will be the author of your death if you continue to take her specious dieting "advice." Kimmer is NOT a medical professional, and her Kimkins diet is deadly.

Please speak frankly with your doctor about your concerns re your health issues and weight-loss efforts. You may still have time to save yourself from irreparable harm by following the
Kimkins starvation diet.

Please take a moment to read the stories of former members of Kimkins here:
Kimkins Survivors.

Their stories will give you some insight as to the serious medical and emotional implications from following the Kimkins diet.


And those stories just may break your heart...but not in the same deadly way the Kimkins starvation diet will.



INTERESTING UPDATE!!!



Locarb4me on LCF noted a discrepancy today between what was posted on the thread at Jimmy Moore's forum and the link I provided below to the thread:

"Speaking of revisionist...I am subscribed to the Shiphips thread at Jimmys. That last (slightly defensive) comment of Shiphips is not on the thread but it's linked from Medusa's blog."

I went back to both the linked page and the thread and there is definitely a discrepancy. Shiphip's last post is missing from the thread:

Screenshot from Jimmy Moore's "lofiversion" of the thread:


And here is a screenshot of the forum thread:



Great catch, lowcarb4me! Hmmm...wonder what happened to shiphip's last post on Jimmy's thread?




LINK:
http://www.lowcarbdiscussion.com/lofiversion/t2797.html

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MORE PEARLS OF WISDOM FROM THE KIMMER...



More from "Doctor Kimmer" to JANE DOE:

"JANE DOE - Thanks for clarifying about being monitored by your doc, and of course I would never repeat our conversations. For that matter, nor conversations I have with other members, either.

The facts of weight loss are that it's largely psychological. We all know "what" to do and "how" to do it. If it were only that easy! There's obstacles at every corner and darned near every one is a mental block. I've got a few of my own. Everyone does.

While I don't like the idea of forced low calories, I don't think it's helpful to force someone to eat either.. Part of long term weight maintenance is learning what works for you ... and this includes a lot of experimentation a long the way. Eat more, eat less, less carbs, more fat, cycling? We continue to try different approaches until it sinks in for us what works and what doesn't.

JANE DOE, last I checked you were over 18, not in danger of starving to death, you appear intelligent, and from your posts about fitness, not entirely ignorant about how your body works. I'm always interested in your feeding experiments and how they relate to your workouts. But I'm not about to become your (or anyone's) mother and tell them when and how much to eat.

We're all here to support each other. No public scoldings or lectures. We're here to help and encourage (which is a foreign concept on some websites).

It's not difficult for me to [word missing] our conversations private. In previous jobs much of my work was confidential or classified, so I was used to "not talking" about work, whether with coworkers or at home. I mean what I just posted. We're all walking a tightrope learning weight loss. Not just what works, but what works for us. Anyone can do Weight Watchers, for example. A fine program. But not for me. I'd quit in a week. Too complicated, weight loss too slow. BUT that doesn't mean it's not good for somebody else and I'll support them 100% if that's the way they want to go. Actually, I refer prospective Kimkins members to WW all the time.

What I admire most, JANE DOE, is your tenacity. I'm still thinking of you making homemade cinnamon rolls for your kids at Christmas and not eating one!

This is why we had a fasting forum. I support fasting, but what people tend to do is binge (and let's face it, probably not at a salad bar or weekend of fresh fruit & veggies), and then want to fix it by eating nothing. A punishment almost. What we're doing is filling our body with junk and then punishing it with nothing. Not good, but I think we have to find that out for ourselves. However, the fasting forum was taken down because members were recommending "products". Hmmm, I wasn't OK on that. I didn't know all of the products and some ingredients were questionable in my eyes."

(All bolding mine)

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ON THE PRECIPICE: JANE DOE'S JOURNAL



I have been provided with a copy of JANE DOE'S JOURNAL at Kimkins, the most recent entry being made by her on January 11, 2008. As well, screen shots have been made of her entire Journal.

There are many disturbing entries in JANE DOE'S JOURNAL and because some are of a personal nature, I will not be posting her journal on my blog. Suffice it to say, JANE DOE is in peril, teetering on the precipice.

I did receive this interesting comment from Anonymous today on one of my previous blog posts, FROM MY MOLE INSIDE THE KIMPOUND: KIMMER RESPONDS... :

"Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "FROM MY MOLE INSIDE THE KIMPOUND: KIMMER RESPONDS...":

whatever problems you have with the kimkins diet did you have to do this to them (JANe DOE). I myself have recently started the kimkins diet after seeing the mike and julie show after seeing all the negative affects posted on these websites. However I am over 18 I can by cigarettes if i wanted to and the are pretty darn sure to cause cancer and probably kill me. MY point is an adult has the option to decide what choices they want to make. I read jane doe's post after you humiliated her here.she is so down and depressed at your invasion it had me in tears . This is a problem she has always had and instead of you keeping your battle with heidi you broke down a woman who wasnt whole to start with but was managing small battls with her own demons. If you feel heidie manipulated you fine gloves off go on with you own personal battle. But there is so much information avaiable on the kimkins diet we grown women and men are going in with our eyes wide open. Its not illegal to go on a diet. is it? Stop trying to persucute the women on his site. and play fair they havent done anything but execute there persute of happiness as deranged a choice YOU MAY THINK THEY HAVE MADE it is still there choice to make. This is america right.........................................Why not think about what your doing.sometimes it is more dangerous then what you are trying to stop. besides I never heard of someone trying to ter down the ones they are trying to call the victims. "




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THE MORNING FROM HELL...


I'm a little delayed in blogging today and the above photo explains why.

Loaded the kids and their friends in the car this morning to take them to their favorite restaurant for breakfast.

I'm now dealing with a trunk full of puppies and kids gone wild from all those espresso shots.

Once things calm down around here, I'll be posting an update on JANE DOE & HEIDI DIAZ... and it's not pretty.
PS Anyone want a puppy?

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