OUR MAN IN HIDING: GARY FONTAINE of KIMKINS

Well, the LCF mods are at it again on the Fascination thread...deleting and chopping posts.

The latest flurry of post cleansing is continuing as a result of uber-sleuth thetruthinhiding (TTIH) posting information about Gary Fontaine, one of Kimmer's lackeys at Kimkins.con. Gary has earned a rather sordid reputation for, among other things, leaving obnoxious, nasty, and offensive comments on AmyB's blog.

thetruthinhiding's beautiful avatar

On April 21, 2008, TTIH posted this in response to a post of HoneyBee2's:

"Quote:

Originally Posted by HoneyBee2

Hi Amy I am days behind on blog posts of everyone, but I just
commented about one of the people posting to you there on your blog.

Did you note their screen name- vatefairefoutrelol

I looked at it and thought if you break the name down into parts it reads:
va te faire foutre lol

va te faire foutre

It is a French expletive of “go .... yourself”
and of course lol
Meaning to "laugh out loud."

Their comments on your blog all make since now.....I wonder who it could be?!?!? "

That is Gary. lasttime4me, Admin at KK."

LINK:

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/10218060-post1430.html



Well, with that bombshell from TTIH comes his/her next post on 04-22-2008, 08:17 AM:

"Quote:
Originally Posted by HoneyBee2
Thanks for the info T-
Do you say that based on the IP that Amy had posted with the comment or based on the email addy or the screen name or how did you determine it was Gary? "

Call it an educated guess. But I is very edumacated.

We have Gary's phone number if anyone wants to ask him if it was him."

So AmyB takes up TTIH's offer, calls Gary, and has yet to receive a response from him. To think that a grown man would make such offensive and hateful remarks about AmyB and her son, Philip, is truly mind-boggling.

Now the story takes a twist...literally. LCF mods get their knickers in a twist and start deleting Gary's info as posted by TTIH.

Next comes an edict from Cheri, one of the LCF mods, which TTIH has quoted in the following post:

"Quote:
Originally Posted by cheri
Here is a
reminder... Please PLEASE
do not post someones name and personal information
on this site. It is not
allowed. I am sure most of you wouldn't like it if
people posted your name and
address on a message board for thousands of
people to see. There are also those
that will end up calling the person or
their work to harrass or cause problems
in their real lives and it could get
you into a lot of trouble.

First names are okay... last names,
addresses, phone numbers and emails are not
allowed so please stop doing it
immediately.

Thank you!

cheri"

It just came to my attention that Gary's last name was also edited out. I have to inquire why? I understand swalt, but Gary WORKS for Heidi as a paid admin. I didn't post his home address or phone number or anything. We can say Heidi Diaz, but we can't say Gary Fontaine? How about Delaney Deaver? These are paid minions of Heidi and as such have no right to privacy protection by LCF. Yes, I know Gary contacted LCF and threatened police action, but if we start falling victim to intimidation, what good are we? I'll wait patiently to see what happens to this post before I decide my next course of action. It is a shame because I really enjoy conversing with the good folks here, but if I can't say Fontaine, I'll take it elsewhere. Shame!

ETA: The info I posted was researched via publically available (or semi-publically available to anyone in Kimkins). There was no reason to censor it. You would have us allow Heidi's paid minions to hide behind a cloak of LCF? What about the tag put on LittleSina outing her as Singinglass? Is it ok, as long as an admininstrator does it? Let's have an open discussion about this here. Disappearing posts in what happens inside Kimkins.
__________________

Blog: The TRUTH Starts Here
04-28-2008, 09:56 AM"


And then TOM RODDY, owner of Netrition and Grand Poobah of LCF, replies to TTIH:


"We will take your word for now that Gary is a paid Kimkins administrator.

I am not aware of any threatened police action or legal action to LCF by Gary or anyone else from Kimkins.

In general, we don't want this site being used to aid in the harassment or slandering of other people or businesses. There will be many judgment calls made by admins in what not to allow - and we ask for your patience and understanding since we often don't have complete information but plenty of complaints from both sides.

We occasionally read this thread and some of the blogs, but please understand that the admins are not able to keep up with everything that is going on in this or all the other topics discussed on this board. We ask for your help in bringing our attention to areas that need to be addressed.

We do not claim to offer full freedom of speech here, but we attempt to be fair in permitting discussions according to our Terms of Service. If there are topics that you would like to discuss that are not appropriate for this board, feel free to take it to your own personal blog or another message board.
04-28-2008, 12:05 PM "

And then TTIH responds to Tom:

"Thanks Tom. I understand that full freedom of speech cannot be offered here, and nor do most of us expect it. There are a growing number of disgruntled folks who do disagree with where the lines are drawn and how inconsistently they seem to be drawn. Thanks for the open/honest response.

ETA:
Well, I got what I consider to be a decent reply from Tom, and then, just now I get an infraction in my PM for the same exact post. Oh well. Not supposed to mention that here.
04-28-2008, 12:09 PM "

Sorry to hear you received another infraction, TTIH. Once those start piling up, you'll be added to the ban roster at LCF, so watch your back.

Now, let's get back to Heidi's bag man, Gary Fontaine. For those who are unfamiliar with Gary, here again is his photograph which has been posted all over the internet, so please spare me whining e-mails that I got it from inside KK...I didn't:

And for those who feel compelled to get to know him better, the following should provide you with enough information to do so:



LINK to Gary's PUBLIC information on the internet:

http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?extra_listing=mixed&form_mode=opt_b&post_back=1&firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=gary&name=Fontaine&street=&city_zip=&state_id=CT&localtime=survey

And be sure to read Mariasol's excellent post on Gary Fontaine here. It's a thing of beauty:

http://mariasol-mariasol.blogspot.com/2007/11/kimkins-admin-gary.html

Share |

Follow on Buzz

LCF MODERATORS/ADMINISTRATORS PERPETUATED KIMKINS/KIMMER FRAUD

I was reading the ALC thread this morning and Cutie provided a link to Anti-Kimkins (http://antikimkins.blogspot.com/2007/10/no-love-for-lowcarbfriends.html) and his/her take on the bannings and thread deletions/sanitations at LCF.

This post is eye-opening. Please read it...it is spot-on.

I, too, was banned at LCF for an innocuous post, so I know where Anti-Kimkins is coming from.

I agree wholeheartedly that LCF is responsible for not only promoting the Kimkins diet but for prolonging not only its survival but the continuation of the fraud being perpetuated by Heidi Dias (aka Kimmer). Their bannings, thread sanitations, and thread deletions are just as despicable as the ban-happy Admins at Kimkims.com.

The Moderators and Administrators at LCF should bow their heads in shame.

Please boycott Netrition (who sponsors the LCF forums).

Bravo to Anti-Kimkins! Here is the post:

"Thursday, October 4, 2007

No love for LowCarbFriends!

Now that all of the fake success stories have been discovered and confirmed by scores of people across the internet, I see everyone at LowCarbFriends (which I refuse to link) is all abuzz with the information. But I can't help but grumble over the fact that all of this could have been stopped over a year ago when myself and others tried to discuss Kimkins' fake Success Stories photos - and LCF admins promptly shut us up by deleting our threads!!! I remember one thread I put up asking innocently, "do these pictures just not look right to anyone else?" and it was gone within minutes. After that, everything I put up was SANITIZED by the admins, meaning, they EDITED my posts and took out anything I said that referred to Kimmer. And of course, their idiotic policy is to not allow you to discuss their actions on the board, so if you questioned it, they'd delete that too. That's when I closed my account there and vowed never to return. It's so ironic that NOW they decide its okay to slam Kimkins.

Think about all of the people that could have been saved from Kimmer, had LCF not gone through so much trouble to protect her. I hold them just as responsible for this fiasco as Kimmer. And this was BEFORE the WW cover, so had they allowed people to even question the legitimacy of her diet and her website, thousands of people could have been warned and who knows, maybe she would have even gotten the cover and we wouldn't be here now. But they protected her and HID all evidence against her. They didn't care that she was a fraud, had no medical background, and no proof of her claims, they just didn't want anyone to speak ill of her. Why is that??? What was the connection between Tom and Heidi? What agreement did she default on that caused him to go up against her?

You really have to wonder WHY. Were they sharing profits? Hoping to share profits? Did Kimmer turn them down for advertising revenue and it pissed off Tom so he decided to turn against her? Something definitely happened and we'll probably never know the truth, but LCF is just as guilty and dirty in this as Heidi is. And we all know it.

Luckily, ALC is an awesome balanced message board without Gestapo admin censoring our every word, so people who wanted integrity and freedom went there - and found it was refreshing and FAIR. I so appreciate the management and administration THERE and that's where I encourage people to go, as well as any of the other LC boards in my sidebar. Anywhere by LCF, because when this is over, they'll still be censoring your speech, and who needs that?

Posted by Tricks of Light at 6:41 PM

Labels: active lowcarber, ALC, heidi diaz, kimmer, LCF, lowcarbfriends, netrition

3 comments:
Once Upon A Dieter said...

I hope this incident is eye-opening for the LCF moderators/admins. I think too strict moderating kills the value of a board, frankly. And this is one case of PROOF.Funny, but I bet a lot of people thought the pics looked odd. I know I remember when I first saw Bambi's pic and I thought, "Hang on. That's not the same women." The bfore and afters looked NOTHING ALIKE. And the blind woman sure balanced great in that squat. It was just weird.Some of the other before/afters just didn't seem to match. But you know, I hadn't paid and wasn't a memeber and didn't know about the shenanigans, so I didn't even think about it beyond the moment of seeing the pics.Well, there ya go. One's instinct can be a good guide.

The Princess..."

LINK TO ANTI-KIMKINS POST:
http://antikimkins.blogspot.com/2007/10/no-love-for-lowcarbfriends.html

LINK TO CUTIE'S POST ON ALC:
http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=349181&page=105&pp=15

Share |

Follow on Buzz