Tuesday, May 20, 2008


The Ultimate Drama Queen

Gloria Swanson as Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard (1950)

I'd better get this post up before the reappearance of the two Drama Queens on the Fascination thread at Low Carb Friends.

First of all, we have AmyB, who seems hell bent on posting every personal thought she's ever had and the minutiae of her life second by second, revealing everything except her Aunt Gertrude's dog's name on the thread. AmyB, listen, honey. Send PMs. And you've got a blog. Post there. Please.

And next we have TwiddleDee who comes crashing and burning from Kimkins into the Fascination thread, alienating most within the first 30 seconds with her not-so-passive-aggressive posts. Within 48 hours, she has an epiphany and suddenly renounces Heidi Diaz/Kimmer. Then, after being asked a few very valid questions, which she refused to deem worthy of a response, she stomps off the thread in a huff, leaving a terse message that she'd be better off dead. Nice work, Dee/DEEDLYNN/whatever.

You know, many Kimkins members have joined LCF and posted in the Fascination thread but none that I can remember have alienated as many people as quickly as Dee.

Dee's behaviour has done nothing to endear her to even her former supporters on FWK and has left many questioning not only her motives but her denunciation of Kimmer. Is it all an act? Is she a Kimmer plant? Who knows. And who really cares at this point. Most of us are Dee'd out.

Carly and Malucas, both having been banned from Kimkins, have posted on LCF and have been welcomed. Perhaps they both could give some tips to Dee on how to win friends and influence people...not that I'm in any way encouraging them to do so.

And a personal note to Malucas:

Malucas, I'm truly sorry that my post on shiphips caused your banning at Kimkins. Heidi, if you're reading this, shiphips was dead wrong. Malucas was not a mole. Not that you really care, Heidi...I just wanted to set the record straight. Malucas, I'm relieved you got out of the Kimpound, and wish you all the best.

And for those who missed it, the talented and brilliant NancyElle posted the following on the FWK thread. For those who fear they may be suffering from the "all about me" complex, please ensure you read this:

"Histrionic Personality Disorder

What is histrionic personality disorder?

Histrionic personality disorder is one of a group of conditions called dramatic personality disorders.

People with these disorders have intense, unstable emotions and distorted self-images.

For people with histrionic personality disorder, their self-esteem depends on the approval of others and does not arise from a true feeling of self-worth.

They have an overwhelming desire to be noticed, and often behave dramatically or inappropriately to get attention. The word histrionic means "dramatic or theatrical."

This disorder is more common in women than in men and usually is evident by early adulthood.

What are the symptoms of histrionic personality disorder?

In many cases, people with histrionic personality disorder have good social skills; however, they tend to use these skills to manipulate others so that they can be the center of attention.

A person with this disorder might also:

Be uncomfortable unless he or she is the center of attention

Dress provocatively and/or exhibit inappropriately seductive or flirtatious behavior

Shift emotions rapidly

Act very dramatically—as though performing before an audience—with exaggerated emotions and expressions, yet appears to lack sincerity

Be overly concerned with physical appearance

Constantly seek reassurance or approval

Be gullible and easily influenced by others

Be excessively sensitive to criticism or disapproval

Have a low tolerance for frustration and be easily bored by routine, often beginning projects without finishing them or skipping from one event to another

Not thinking before acting

Make rash decisions

Be self-centered and rarely show concern for others

Have difficulty maintaining relationships, often seeming fake or shallow in their dealings with others

Threaten or attempt suicide to get attention

What causes histrionic personality disorder?

The exact cause of histrionic personality disorder is not known, but many mental health professionals believe that both learned and inherited factors play a role in its development.

For example, the tendency for histrionic personality disorder to run in families suggests that a genetic susceptibility for the disorder might be inherited. However, the child of a parent with this disorder might simply be repeating learned behavior.

Other environmental factors that might be involved include a lack of criticism or punishment as a child, positive reinforcement that is given only when a child completes certain approved behaviors, and unpredictable attention given to a child by his or her parent(s), all leading to confusion about what types of behavior earn parental approval.

How is histrionic personality disorder diagnosed?

If symptoms are present, the doctor will begin an evaluation by performing a complete medical history and physical examination. Although there are no laboratory tests to specifically diagnose personality disorders, the doctor might use various diagnostic tests to rule out physical illness as the cause of the symptoms.

If the doctor finds no physical reason for the symptoms, he or she might refer the person to a psychiatrist or psychologist, health care professionals who are specially trained to diagnose and treat mental illnesses. Psychiatrists and psychologists use specially designed interview and assessment tools to evaluate a person for a personality disorder.

How is histrionic personality disorder treated?

In general, people with histrionic personality disorder do not believe they need therapy.

They also tend to exaggerate their feelings and to dislike routine, which makes following a treatment plan difficult.

However, they might seek help if depression—possibly associated with a loss or a failed relationship—or another problem caused by their thinking and behavior causes them distress.

Psychotherapy (a type of counseling) is generally the treatment of choice for histrionic personality disorder. The goal of treatment is to help the individual uncover the motivations and fears associated with his or her thoughts and behavior, and to help the person learn to relate to others in a more positive way.

Medication might be used to treat the distressing symptoms—such as depression and anxiety—that might co-occur with this disorder.

What are the complications of histrionic personality disorder?

Histrionic personality disorder can affect a person’s social or romantic relationships and how a person reacts to losses or failures. People with this disorder are also at higher risk than the general population to suffer from depression.

What is the outlook for people with histrionic personality disorder?

Many people with this disorder are able to function well socially and at work. Those with severe cases, however, might experience significant problems in their daily lives.

Can histrionic personality disorder be prevented?

Although prevention of the disorder might not be possible, treatment can allow a person who is prone to this disorder to learn more productive ways of dealing with situations.

©Copyright 1995-2007 The Cleveland Clinic Foundation. All rights reserved"

And be sure to check out the fabulous Nancy Ellyn's blog here:

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Nancy Ellyn said...

((((Medusa)))) You are getting right up there with Jackson, real fast! LOL

Flattery will get you EVERYWHERE!

I kept checking to see if you blogged about this latest drams....Outstanding, as always, my love!!!!!!!

theTRUTH said...

Thanks for repeating the post on that disorder, I finally have figured out what is wrong with me! This info is going to save me $$$ on those bi-weekly shrink bills!

P.S. This comment was all about me.

Medusa said...

OMG, Jackson???!!! Really? Wow!

I'm humming The Pretender as I type this...humming because I can't carry a note in a bucket. LOL!

Thanks for your lovely comment, hon!

Medusa said...

Truth, I'm thrilled Nancy's Histrionic Personality Disorder (HPD) post assisted you in your self-diagnosis so you can stop paying that head doctor big bucks.

Medusa thinks the symptoms of HPD should be revised to include excessive reference to oneself in the third party. That symptom gives Medusa the creeps.

Nancy Ellyn said...

Medusa....I think I may have a girl crush on you....and I'm totally in love with men......You rock my socks, kiddo.....It must be that fuschia top in your picture! lolololololol (only partially kidding...) ;-)

Nancy Ellyn said...

Oh wait, Nancy thinks she has a girl crush on Medusa. It's all about Nancy...Nancy loves Jackson...Nancy admires Medusa....Nancy is looking out for Nancy. Nancy is just trying to get herself together and explain to others every last thought, detail and nuance in Nancy's life. Nancy is interested in Histrionic Personality Disorder, because it is obvious, Nancy is disordered....

HA! What fresh hell is this! LOL

Gotta love satire!

Anonymous said...

Being the saintly saint that I am (not) I do feel compassion for Dee and especially for Amy, and for all living creatures including us humans, and for our drama, our whining, and our personalities, histronic or otherwise.

Some of us are born dramatic, some become dramatic, and some have drama thrust upon us.

Some of us thrust drama upon everybody around us.

Some of us even shampoo our hair with drama.

And for all the drama, and all the drama queens yes for that I do feel compassion. Not always, but just generally speaking, even when I'm complaining about both the drama and the queens thereof.

I could simply stop reading the FWK threads. But I don't want to. I just want there to be not quite so very, very much thread to read.

This is a whine, a personal little whiney whine, being whined by a diehard FWK thread fan.

Amy seems to be a good, decent person. Dee, who can say. If we all knew each other in real life, and knew each other's childhood and life circumstances, maybe we'd all see each other more clearly and have compassion for each other, maybe even like each other. Or maybe we'd set flaming paper sacks of poo on each other's doorsteps in the night and then run away cackling. Who can say.

Anyway, I'm just a wee bit of drama queen myself. If I were allowed to post at LCF I'd probably be a drama queen there too because ya know there is just so much drama that a mere blog cannot hold it all.


Yust Yucky

Anonymous said...

I'm still trying to catch up, and wanted to mention this post, by Shelby is excellent rebuttal to Anani's post:

"I think that it is the nature of the regular posters here to be suspicious. It is the nature of this game. It has been said over and over, if you are looking for support, ex KK'ers, THIS thread isnt the place for it. There are gobs of them in the other Kimmer threads. This is for cynical and suspicious people, that is how they figured this all out, by being such."


Anonymous said...

ooh and Bama has a great reply right after Shelby's ...

eh, I'm gonna go just read the thread & try to focus instead of skimming.

I do most strenuously (oooh! strenuously, la di dah!) object to Anani's statement: "this thread has outlived its usefulness."

Bullshit. This thread has morphed over time. Shifted and adjusted as the situation itself has shifted. Its "usefulness" is a subjective thing, and if it truly had outlived all usefulness to all people it would have died already.

The fact that it is still alive speaks to its usefulness -- though in what way it is useful depends upon who you ask.

It is useful IMO in its original purpose -- to give people who are fascinated with Kimmer, and the Kimkins scandal, a central location to discuss that fascination. Just because some people are fascinated to varying degrees and by various aspects of Kimmer and of the Kimkins scandal, and just because the discussion, like any living thing, changes and grows and sometimes has a bad hair day does not mean "it has outlived its usefulness."

Great respect to the oldtimers, who seem to be mourning "the way things used to be." Great respect, and a request that you continue to uphold the right of the threads to exist as well as the right of all of us to be fascinated in our own way and in our own time.

Medusa said...

Medusa thanks Nancy SO much for her lovely comments. Medusa likes fuschia, Nancy, and Jackson very much, too. Medusa thinks Nancy and Medusa may be sisters ;^)

And Medusa thinks Yucky is becoming way compassionate. Medusa likes Yucky when Yucky is blasting away with her brilliant satirical barbs and theories, setting "flaming paper sacks of poo on each other's doorsteps in the night and then run away cackling." That's the Yucky I adore. ;^)

Anonymous said...

All right, all right, I was having a weak (a.k.a. undercaffeinated) moment. The fact is I adore LOLcats but hate them in the threads. I adore cakes but hate them in the threads especially when they're being advertised oops I mean posted by a person who makes money from the cakes ("W'huh? Those are ads? Well gorlyjee we didn't notice, 'cause we were too busy not noticing she's getting a discount by advertising the cruise, too).

I do NOT adore Dee (so last night she's threatening/implying a threat of suicide and stirs depths of true emotion and then this morning waltzes back in to the thread without even a word to those who were calling out to their Gods to help her, save her, heal her?) I do not adore anybody droning on and on and on and on and on and on and yes, ON! about whatever, unless that whatever happens to be something I'm utterly fascinated with at the moment - usually myself of course - but in the case of the threads that means Kimmer and Kimkins. Not cats or kids or ceiling wax or cabbages or kings.

But I'll take Dee's drama any day over the cutesy fartsy flowerpickin' smooches and -- speaking of flaming sacks of poo -- the country song lyrics (which appear to be brain farts set to what passes for music these days) and the pixs oh dear gourd in heaven the pix, of people at ballgames and people fishing and people in hospital beds and people doing all sorts of things that have nothing whatsoever to do with Kimmer and/or Kimkins. Pix of children -- excuse me a moment while I rant about people posting pix of children on the internet -- there is no I repeat NO excuse for putting a child at risk, and that's exactly what you're doing when you post a child's picture on the internet and their name and your name and where you live and what your birthday is and shall I go on?


Dee's drama is at least semi interesting because she may or may not be working for Heidi. And that is the only reason it's interesting.

At least, it's more interesting than 17% of the other stuff in the threads lately.

And that's the news from Lake Woeisme, my hometown, out here on the edge of the prairie -- where all the men wear jalapeno panties, all the women are whiney, and all the cats are above average.

Back to you, Barb :D

Anonymous said...

Catching up with the posts in 17. This one by Magics "This thread can and will be shut down if all it becomes is a place for grilling the ex-KK people."

If that's Tom's excuse for shutting down the FWK threads, what is his excuse for shutting down the "Ask Kimmer" threads?

Face it. Tom is going to shut down the threads and scrub LCF. Why? Who the hell knows. He was at one time a business partner or at least had a business arrangement with Heidi -- who do you think posted those Kcom ads at the top of the LCF site pages?

Does he still have some sort of arrangement with Heidi? I don't know. Did Heidi and/or her attorney threaten Tom with legal action if he didn't start shutting down the anti Kimmer stuff and scrubbing LCF? I don't know that either.

All I know is, Tom fully intended to shut down / scrub the "Ask Kimmer" threads, and that action was delayed thanks to pleas by a concerned antiKK activist.

It was nothing more than a postponement until those threads could be copied and placed in storage for future reference, investigation and media use.

As far as the FWK threads are concerned, it seems quite clear that they're on the same chopping block as the Ask Kimmer threads.

IMO it's not even a matter of time -- it's a matter of Tom deciding which excuse to use.

Will he use the grilling of Deed?

Will he use the cats & cakes & farts?

Does Heidi send people like Deed over to the threads, knowing full well what the response will be, in order to give Tom more excuses?

Medusa said...

Bravo!!! Now, THERE'S the Yucky I love...erudite, scathing, witty, and oh so brilliant.

Welcome back! Phew, I'm SO glad your feeling of weakness passed and you're back to your usual brilliant self ;^)

Encore! Encore!

Anonymous said...

Um....does this mean you guys do not want to see my trip pictures, my two greyhound dogs and my birth pictures. LMBO.
I like to think I am not a drama queen. I just love to talk and post and think outloud. LOL
Believe it or not this blog post was a tad funny to me. Just do not post anything else. Haha.
Let me know about those pictures..

Medusa said...

Amyb, I've gotta give it to you, you're a good sport ;^)

I think I'll pass on the trip pics and your baby pics, but if you send me pics of your greyhounds, Medusa will send you pics of her dogs and snakes. ;^)

Ann Marie said...

After today's post on LCF I doubt anyone will find me to be.. undrama.. I think I threw drama..

I am tired.. I was trying to help. Apparently I didn't according to some.

Anonymous said...

Amy, yes you're a drama queen. So am I. So are a whole bunch of other people. Not a crime. But we don't have to further swell the already swollen torrent of posts in the fascination threads with that drama.

Use your blog's comments section, like I do -- the comments section is the perfect place to let your inner drama queen reign. Use your email, set up a MySpace page, set up your own Dramam Queen Challenge thread at LCF.

Whine & be warmnfuzzy any-the-hell-where except the fascination threads, I beg of you, and I beg of everyone else, puh-leeze. Or not.

This comment brought to you by Whiney Whines. Feel free to ignore.

Anonymous said...

Ok I will keep it off the LCF thread...
How about you give me your home, work and cell number..and when I have thoughts to share..I will give you a call. Now that should excite you.
Medusa..how about you? I have things to share..lot's and lot's..
YOU can admit the truth to me..haha.you know you want to.ha

Anonymous said...

Ann Marie aka Carly says: "After today's post on LCF I doubt anyone will find me to be.. undrama.. I think I threw drama..
I am tired.. I was trying to help. Apparently I didn't according to some."

{{Carly}} eh, you walked into the unknown and IMO you handled yourself pretty well.

And what's with the guilt trip re "causing a riff"? First of all, the Fascination threaders argue with each other all the time about all sorts of stuff. They're humans, with emotions and opinions and passion for argument -- and second of all, "riffs" are like farts in the threads -- some are more odiferous than others, and some drive some people out of the room in search of oxygen elsewhere. Some linger long after their creators have departed, while some waft away with the breeze. So unless you really really got an ego thing going there's no need to slouch & pout about "causing a riff."

Now, something I've been wanting to ask you -- do you know Deedlynn in real life? Or do you only know her online? 'Cause if you only know her online, how do you know she isn't Kimmer or one of her flying monkeys?

Just wondering.

Truly best wishes,
Yust Yucky

Anonymous said...

Amyb says "Yucky...
Ok I will keep it off the LCF thread...
How about you give me your home, work and cell number..and when I have thoughts to share..I will give you a call. Now that should excite you.
Medusa..how about you? I have things to share..lot's and lot's..
YOU can admit the truth to me..haha.you know you want to.ha"

1. You have as much right as anybody else to post whatever you can get away with. But how about this -- and this offer goes out to all Fascination threaders reading here -- every time you post OT (and that includes personal anecdotes, personal pix, or for that matter any anecdotes and/or pix not directly related to Kimmer or Kimkins, song lyrics, recipes, Grey's Anatomy spoilers, AI spoilers, holiday greetings, birthday greetings, posts asking for help with a computer problem or posts telling people they have a pm or an email or a booger in their nose) for every OT post you agree to spend half an hour working on the Save The Threads project.


Half an hour, copying the threads, stripping out the links and ads and formatting, then reformatting, and then pasting to email & send 'em to me for storage.

2. I'm sure you have a voice as lovely as your soul but the idea of you calling me to share your thoughts about anything is almost as appealing as the idea of an entire cubicle full of telemarketers calling me to share their thoughts about timeshares in the Everglades or subscriptions to Lip-Reader's Digest.

Best wishes,

Anonymous said...

uh, that sounded kinda harsh. Sorry. {{Amy}}

Anonymous said...

That hurt my heart...I think you should admit to everyone we talk daily..
Hey..you know what Yucky...you try to be a bad butt but you are a big hearted sweetie.Now give Amy B a hug...
And be nice...really...it is okay to be nice..and that name yucky..how about something like..yummy or well something to show your nicer sweet side?
We will talk about it SOON.

Medusa said...

Yes, I'm a bitch. Just not yours.