In what may have been a splash of misogyny and a spike in testosterone, Tom, owner of Netrition and Big Kahuna of Low Carb Friends (LCF), brings down the paddle on the posters on the Fascination with Kimmer thread at LCF...and then starts backpedaling!
It all started on April 28th, 2008, when he posted the following:
Why the fascination with Kimmer? #16
Welcome to: Why the fascination with Kimmer? #16
As a reminder, please be respectful of dissenting views and please avoid personal insults of others - including the subject of these threads. Thank you. "
Well, to put it mildly, I found that post just a tad unusual.
And then Tom posts this further admonishment on May 12, 2008:
Please try to stay on topic in this thread. Many members are complaining that they are interested in keeping up, but don't have time to read through all the chit chat. Use other threads for other topics. Thank you. "
And then, after being taken to task by LosingToLive, Tom does the big backpedal:
Originally Posted by LosingToLive
Oops, Sorry Tom .
When we are "goaded" to respond, sometimes we ( I ) can't help it.
We have all worked very hard to get to thread number 17. We don't mean to take this thread in another direction, we're just making friends.*gasp*
Yes, it’s important to stay on topic but we have all worked side by side for so long, it’s like a family reunion.
We understand what your’re saying, and we know that some people only have time for the "results". We are the ones that are bringing the "results", sometimes we get carried away with our hard work.
I for one will not clutter this thread with friendly talk; we don’t want this thread to disappear. I just don’t understand why things have changed.
I don't want people complaining to you while they are suffering. If they are having such a hard time with this thread, it must be pretty “traumatic for them to contact you. * I *(me) apologize. I’m not trying to be a jerk (sometimes it happens). I understand how someone wants "details only", but we are the ones that went out and *got those details*.
Tom, It is your board ,and we will abide by your rules. I wish I would have known that the rules change. WE have worked our butts off to get this info to the lawyers, etc. NO, we weren’t always on topic, but we kicked butt. Good job Ducks !
If I disappear, ask around and someone will be able to contact me.
Take care Ducks, you're work is important. Stand tall, and keep going. We only wished that someone would have dropped the “details” in our laps, instead *we worked for them*.
No rules changed. I simply reminded everyone to try to stay on topic for the benefit of everyone that would like to read the thread. That doesn't mean to only post "results". I understand that friendships are made and there will naturally be some posts unrelated to the topic, but I just ask you to consider whether some of the comments could be posted in other more appropriate forums or threads or in a PM.
It actually doesn't matter much to me since I don't read all the posts in these threads, but some people that would like to are simply unable to keep up because of the large volume of off-topic posts and have expressed some frustration.
How do the rest of you feel about it? Do you think it's insulting to ask everyone to try not to stray so far from the topic of the thread? "
Well, Tom, you've taken a page out of Heidi's book. And guess what? It IS too late to take that back.
These posters are your bread and butter, lining your pockets with silver by purchasing from your company, Netrition.
It appears the damage is done, Tom, as there is much talk of a mass exodus from LCF because of the continual hand-slapping and admonishments by yourself and other admins.
And in a fit of pique this afternoon (Tuesday, May 13/08), Tom next posts the following:
Originally Posted by Mayberryfan
I'm not under the impression that anyone thinks Dee is OT. It's that some of us, myself most definitely included, have been reprimanded for making very mild, off-color remarks about Heidi and gotten a no-no note for it. Whereas, people, such as Dee, and others can come in with what appears to be an intent to stir up trouble, call the Ducks "haters" and other such nonsense and they seem free to say whatever they want for as long as they want. To me, THAT'S the crux of the discussion here about what's OT and what isnt. "
AND NEXT THIS:
Originally Posted by Mayberryfan
Whereas, people, such as Dee, and others can come in with what appears to be an intent to stir up trouble, call the Ducks "haters" and other such nonsense and they seem free to say whatever they want for as long as they want. To me, THAT'S the crux of the discussion here about what's OT and what isnt."
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"And we respect Dee's right to express her opinion especially since she was being talked about here. Do you feel she should be banned from the site because you don't agree with her - or would it make more sense to respectfully address her concerns as some others have done here. Instead you laughed and encouraged posts that tell her to not "let the door hit your A## on the way out." What type of reaction do you expect when people talk to you like that?"
AND THEN MAYBERRY RESPONDS:
Originally Posted by Tom
And we respect Dee's right to express her opinion especially since she was being talked about here. Do you feel she should be banned from the site because you don't agree with her - or would it make more sense to respectfully address her concerns as some others have done here. Instead you laughed and encouraged posts that tell her to not "let the door hit your A## on the way out." What type of reaction do you expect when people talk to you like that? "
"I didn't POST that Tom, I merely laughed in response to it. I don't have a problem with Dee posting her side of things. She has a right to express her side of the issue. As a matter of fact, I've had very few dealings with Dee. My problem is with the fact that lately we don't seem to be able to make any little off-color remark about Heidi. That's my issue!
Hey, it's your board and you can certainly run it as you see fit. I'm not someone who complains about other's posts. I've only complained about one person here and fortunately he chose to leave us on his own. I don't TRY to cause trouble, KWIM? "
AND AGAIN MAYBERRY RESPONDS:
Originally Posted by Tom
Another complaint about this? You were simply reminded by an admin of the terms of service because of your post: "Every gal needs a little "sea man" in her life." That's all. We don't want posts like that here."
"Tom, et al.,
If anyone was offended by that little joke, I honestly apologize. It was not intention to offend anyone (except for Heidi). It was simply meant to be a play on words. "
Actually, Mayberry, I would have told Tom to...
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