This just in from a very intrepid member of Camp Carbaway:
From Fawnnnn's Journal at the Camp:
"Watchin from the Sidelines
February 18, 2008, 04:24:56 PM »
Journal Topic: " I did it.... I completely and literally left the other site today "
Before I can read or respond to any earlier posts to my journal today...
I need to let this out please.. so please bear with me.
Dear Diary, today is Monday, Feb 18, 2008 Time 1:50pm
Today I did the HARDEST thing I had to do in a longggggggggggggg time... request a refund for my paid membership at the other site at Kimkins.
Why did I finally leave today?
Because last night as I was going thru the final boxes of decluttering that I started this weekend and threw out literally bags and bags of 30 gallon trash bags of paperwork trash this weekend.... last night I came across a box of papers that I had from kimkins. Mainly my journal... yes I posted a lot there, no doubt but when it came to my diary/journal I needed to have a physical hard copy of my own diary to see my journey, the ups and downs and learn from my mistakes, etc.
The hardest thing was to SEE in print how I .. well lets just tell the truth and say it... I idolized this woman called Kimmer.
Because she was the answer to my prayer. She helped me in ways with her diet plan that NO ONE else could and trust me I have been on a LOT of diet plans thru out my life and it was her diet plan on kimkins.com that taught me about the effects that carbs have on my body. The site itself was very informative to me. I can only speak for myself.
I also have the type of personality to defend those who are like too shy or meek to defend themselves and I remember battling and cursing people out who would talk poorly about her or the diet plan on kimkins. Embarrassingly I admit I did that for a long time with no one telling me to stop, not kimmer or the admins. until months later when singinglass posted for me to cease cursing. Looking back I can see why people didnt take to me too well because it appeared as if I had free reign to say what I wanted and when I wanted to people who opposed the plan or said anything negative about Kimmer. Now I can understand their frustrations, truly I can.
okay sorry back to topic:
As I was going thru hundreds and I mean hundreds of papers and documents last night.... I found myself getting frustrated at the thought of WHY am I keeping these papers.... why? I dont know what to believe or what not to believe... the dream, the hope and idolizing of a woman that I cherished and defended and the plan was all a lie!
Yes she finally admitted it openly in court and made a statement on her websites of an explanation and things moved on and things were forgiven... after all.. none of us are perfect....we had no right (in my opinon) to throw the first stone kinda thing.
BUT last night it just got to me. I couldnt find ONE thing that was true in those documents.... and it tore me apart inside emotionally, feeling hood winked to a point, maybe too trusting as well to a LOT of a degree.
so today, I did what I wanted to do for a while... leave the kimkins website to help me move ON and Forward.
It was HARD, it wasnt easy. It was like cutting the emblical cord of the life source of someone who taught you how to live kind of thing.. emotionally it was HARD to say goodbye, no matter the circumstance. Love and caring has no boundaries or distance. I am genuine in the people I care about and come to love so NO this was not easy by any means.... to break away and cut ties.
But I knew for my own peace of mind and to move forward and not feel ... anyways I did what I had to do today.
at 1:07 pm today, this afternoon I posted the following in my two journals on that site, in the beginning and the end of each journal and I posted on Kimmers journal as well and I private messaged her the following message:
Dearest Kimmer, 02/18/08
It is me, ___ I am respectfully requesting a refund of membership here please.
Please contact me at: ____ @yahoo.com
You will always be dear to my heart, always.
respectfully and with deepest heart felt sincerity.
My yahoo email address is: ____ @ yahoo . com
It was my decision NOT to go into detail as to WHY I was leaving and requesting a refund.
1. There is enough negativity in the world and I didnt want to hurt her by posting anything negative. I just couldnt do that to a woman who taught me so much. I cant hurt her or her business like that, no matter the circumstance... she did help me after all. I just can't hurt people. I am a strong, tough person but I just can't hurt people that I care about, I just can't.
2. I just wanted to leave peacefully, respectfully with no drama and mainly I wanted to be "mature" about my departure. *** for me, it was a part of growing up... a part of growth.... to leave peacefully with no harm.
1:07pm = I posted on my journals and her journal on the kimkins website at 12:07pm the same message as above.
1:15pm = I emailed her a private message on the kimkins website with the same post, along with my name and address.
1:20pm = I emailed Kimmer on yahoo with a request for a refund including my physical address and name with the following:Dearest Kimmer, 02/18/08 You know you will always be dear to my heart and I am finding it difficult to deal with what is true and not true even as I read the documents on hard copy especially last night.
I am requesting a refund check of my membership fee that I paid thru paypal with the Kimkins Website to be mailed to my home address within two weeks from today 02/18/08 please: Here is my name and address below........
1: 27pm = I was going to post to a friend and I typed the note and pressed "send" and a box popped up that read:
I tired several times, still the same message. I even restarted my computer and still the same message.
I realized THEN that my membership on kimkins.com was terminated that quickly*
1:28 pm = I started getting emails on my yahoo email address from people on the kimkins website who apparently saw my posts asking for a refund. In the emails they were asking WHY I left and did I notice that Kimmer took her photo off her homepage on the website and did I know why she took her photo off. ( I dont know why.. thats her decision to do so. )
1:30pm = I got a reply email from Kimmer on my yahoo email which read:
Hi ____ ,
No problem at all and you'll be in our next batch. Promise me you'll stay on program and stay focused! You're a special lady and I'll miss you!
***** Wow, such grace even in departure. No questions, nothing. She understood and would grant my request of a refund.
To me personally, I thought she showed MUCH class in her response to my posts and yahoo email.
soooooooooooooo.... it is done.
I was glad that in the end which is today, we were both respectful and graceful.
I am no longer a kimkins member and quess what?
I am still okay and the world did not end, smiles.
I am glad I am here at campcarbaway... the peaceful refuge and a safe and open place to be, where people are real and they accept one another for who and what they are and there is HONEST journies, experiences, openess, love and support here for one another and I appreciate ALL of you so much I can't even put it into words, thank you, hugs.
whew that was a lot of typing lol... I need a break. smiles
" Feb 28, 08, I GOT MY KIMKINS REFUND CK TODAY $59.95 = exactly ten days from my request "
It was TEN days from today exactly, on Feb 18, 2008 on Presidents day that I requested a refund from my Kimkins membership and I came home today and the check was there in FULL for $59.95.
At least she kept her word and gave me my refund as she wrote that she would. I am happy about that.
More happy that she kept her word, inspite of ... whatever. Ya gotta give her credit for that and I do.
No animosity, just a clean, friendly and respectable break.
I will always give the Kimkins plan credit for teaching me a lot about carbs and how it affects my body AND for getting me started on the journey of weight loss successfully and now I am glad I am here, smiles , yeh!"
AND FOR YOUR VIEWING PLEASURE, SCREEN SHOTS PROVIDED BY MY SOURCE ARE AVAILABLE HERE:
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Well, congrats, Fawn, on getting that refund from Kimmer. Now, here's an idea. Why don't you send it back to Kimmer and join the lawsuit? I'm sure you've got lots to spill :^)
Many thanks again to my source! Great sleuthing!