Friday, December 7, 2007

OUR TIPPYTOES...(UPDATED ONCE AGAIN)

As you have read about the self-inflicted travails ofTippyToes, I'm sure there are many who wouldn't know her if they bumped into her in the street.

For your viewing pleasure...our TippyToes (Jeannie Baitinger) flogging the Kimkins Starvation Diet during the scrimmage on Fox-TV's "Morning Show with Mike and Juliet" on November 12, 2007:

Hi, Tippy!

Back at cha!*

Back at cha again, Tippy!*


"I'm such a loser" ????!!! Oh, dear.*

*Before anyone gets their knickers in a twist, the 3 photos above were circulated by Tippy herself and have been previously posted on the Internets.


Oops! Sorry. Wrong picture, wrong post.

*****


And for your edification:

Narcissistic Personality Disorder

From "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders"
of the American Psychiatric Association, 4th edition, 1994,
(commonly referred to as DSM-IV.)

Narcissistic Personality Disorder:

"An all-pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or in behaviour), need for admiration and a marked lack of empathy which starts at early adulthood and is present in a variety of contexts."At least 5 of the following should be present to qualify a person as suffering from NPD:

(1) Possesses a grandiose sense of self importance (for example: exaggerates his achievements and his talents, expects his superiority to be recognised without having the commensurate skills or achievements).

(2) Pre-occupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance and beauty or of ideal love.

(3) Believes that he is unique and special and that only high status and special people (or institutions) could understand him (or that it is only with such people and institutions that it is worth his while to be associated with).

(4) Demands excessive and exceptional admiration.

(5) Feels that he is deserving of exceptionally good treatment, automatic obeisance of his (usually unrealistic) expectations.

(6) Exploitative in his interpersonal relationships, uses others to achieve his goals.

(7) Lacks empathy: is disinterested in other people's needs and emotions and does not identify with them.

(8) Envies others or believes that others envy him.

(9) Displays arrogance and haughtiness.

LINK: http://www.ousterhout.net/zoom/npd.html


Hello?? Does that description ring any bells?

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27 comments:

Anonymous said...

I have been a quiet follower of all the drama surrounding Kimkins. I also think that Tippy has done the wrong thing by promoting that diet. However, she has now LEFT Kimkins and is also willing to cooperate with the lawyer for the lawsuit. What ELSE do you guys want her to do? To say that she IS VERY VERY sorry for what she has done?

She may have done something wrong and may have hurt people, but all the insults and sarcasm thrown her way are just going way too overboard. What do YOU get for trying to hurt her feelings? Are you guys the BETTER people in this whole drama? Oh come on, get off your high horse. Two wrongs don't make one right. I think you guys are just pushing it way too far. Everyone MAKES mistake.

Has she PERSONALLY hurt you? I think if you have been affected by that diet, then Kimmer is to be blamed. I doubt she has hurt every single one who is now upset with her. Looks to me half the people might really be hurt/upset, the other half consists of drama queens who like participating in internet dramas.

I am just saying although Tippy might have done wrong, but you guys just will NOT let it go no matter what (all the insults/sarcasm), does not make you the better person here. Just as bad if not WORSE.

I am really just an outsider and have not voiced any comment so far. But for you to publish her picture like that, what are you trying to achieve? So people will beat her up or stare at her in shame if they meet her out in the streets?

You guys pressured her to leave, she finally did (whether monetary reasons or not). Wanted her to explain, she tried. And she gets bombarded. Of COURSE it's all about her, because it's her account.

All I'm trying to say is, you're not the better person here and don't act like you're the saint in this whole drama thus have the rights to keep making fun of her.

Medusa said...

Anonymous, I will make only one comment about this section of your post:

"...But for you to publish her picture like that, what are you trying to achieve? So people will beat her up or stare at her in shame if they meet her out in the streets?"

Beat her up? Stare at her in shame? Oh, please!

If Tippy was concerned about her picture being published or being recognized on the street, she would not have agreed to be a participant on a national television program (as the PR Director of Kimkins) where her mug would be seen across America.

Avenue Girl said...

Dear Anonymous,

By allowing Tippy to quietly slip out the back door, would just send the wrong message to anyone else who gets the brilliant idea to work for a scam artist who has pulled a big con on over 20,000 people.

Kimmer/Heidi Diaz/her boss lied to her numerous times about who she was. When Tippy found out about the lies, she continued to stay and support the fraud. I don't know about you, but If I found out my boss was lying to me, I would've been long gone.

There were good people in there who were admins, who took the cue to go as soon as they realized the harm the site was causing. This sent a very clear message to the followers that were in there. They wondered where their friends went and why they left.

Tippy stayed, and tried to create a "cycling" option. She was offering an experiment that had not been fully tested. Maybe her cycling technique would have worked. But here again we have people selling things they have no right to be selling and pushing. We have no scientific proof that this is a good thing to do to your body. Even she admitted there was no doctor on board that had approved the plans that were in effect.

Currently it appears it took a massive pay cut for her to see the light. What message does that send for her reasons to jump the fence? She could have easily still supported what she was doing with the diet and got a real job. And she could have denounced the diet as soon as she heard the lies. No one was forcing her to stay.

Tippy has made her own bed.

I initially made the mistake myself thinking Kimkins is ok, fat kimmy made me skinny. I was about to start promoting again, as I had done well as an affiliate. I took the time to find out why this was not a good idea. I knew the message I would be sending would not be a very good one. It was not out of fear of what others would say that I decided not to promote. It was out of respect for myself, and the message I wanted to send to other people. I would rather be broke and able to sleep at night than rich and selling snake oil.

Tippy's message reads: I will work on a sinking ship as long as I'm getting paid for it. Stop paying me and I will send a few canons your way.

I appreciate any help Tippy can give us - It's just going to be very hard to trust her after the message she has sent. Actions.

Anonymous said...

But that has already happened and it was before she left Kimkins. Now that she has left (with or without regrets), the LCF guys are still constantly pushing it. Watching her every move and are posting updates on anything she does. I don't know but to me it is almost like cyberbullying.

On Wikipedia, "According to R.B. Standler[2]bullying intends to cause emotional distress and has no legitimate purpose to the choice of communications...Even bloggers may use their blogs as venues for such harassment directed at others."

Anyway I will leave it at that. I just feel for Tippy - a whole team against her. No hard feelings. Goodbye.

Avenue Girl said...

"What ELSE do you guys want her to do? To say that she IS VERY VERY sorry for what she has done?"

Yes. But not unless she means it. I want her to realize the full scope of her part in this scam. I think there is great potential for Tippy to help us really make a dent in taking down the site. Things she may say now can have a huge impact on who is still in the site. I personally comment not for drama, but because I care.

Team said...

The cycling technique HAS been tested and it WORKS! Tippy herself is living PROOF! And so are THOUSANDS if not MILLIONS of other dieters she has TAUGHT HOW TO DO HER DIET. A year from now you'll all be KICKING yourselves for not being members of Tippy's hugely SUCCESSFUL and LEGALLY run website! I don't know what the name will be and I don't know the official name of the diet SHE CREATED but I'm sure it'll be TONS BETTER than that lying scamming Kimmer's Kimkins. The queen is dead! long live the QUEEN OF LEAN! You all seem to enjoy ATTACKING a person who is trying to live up to the VOW she made to all of us here in the dieting community! Tippy is going to RIGHT EVERY WRONG! No matter what you all say or do! You all think your HATE and VENGEANCE are going to sway her? You all think you're going to DISCOURAGE her? NO! A thousand million times NO! She has set her HEART on RIGHTING EVERY WRONG, and that means she's going to progress in her journey toward RADICAL HONESTY. She's going to NOT be like YOU all! Or like the scamming lying Kimmer! NO! Tippy's going to progress toward honesty, toward compassion, toward law abiding FAME no matter WHAT you all try to do to stop her! It's people like YOU who PERSECUTE anybody who is WORKING ON THEMSELVES to MAKE THINGS RIGHT! You are all just a bunch of RABID ANTI-TIPITES!

signed,
Salad Barbie

Medusa said...

It's nice that Tippy's mother reads this blog

TeamTippy said...

I am NOT Tippy's MOTHER, I am HER FAN! Just one fan among MILLIONS! You'll see! You'll ALL see!

signed,
Team Tippy
(Salad Bar ,President)

saladbar bie said...

We believe in Tippy!!!!! We believe in Henry IV, Part 1, Act 1, Scene 2, l.216-7!

Avenue Girl said...

Salad Barbie, I hope for all us struggling dieters you're right. I truly hope she can help and leave a positive imprint on the web. I would like to be swayed to believing everything Tippy has to say.

Please come back to me when there are case studies after 5 years showing long term success of the Tippy Plan. I'm willing to read those pages of doctor testimonials which will praise the diet as single handedly putting an end to the awful plague called obesity here in the US.

I have no intention of stopping her from doing anything that will have a positive outcome for mankind.

Who ever said we wouldn't be members of her site? I personally never said any such thing.

But I will warn you now, as I will warn Tippy too - Anything and everything she has published on the web in the past will be used by the nay sayers to question Tippy and her diet. Before jumping on the Tippy bandwagon, I will be digging to find the true character and integrity of Ms. Toes. If she is innocent, then she has nothing to fear.

Magicsmom said...

Team Tippy, you must be a team of one. It's a lonely job, but if it's how you feel, go for it. You are far in the minority. If there are others, let them show themselves. If she is "righting the wrongs" tell us exactly how she is accomplishing it. What has she done to right the wrongs? All I've seen her do is defend herself and accept no responsibility for her complicity in Heidi's crimes. Hey come to think of it, I haven't even see her admit that Heidi committed any crimes. How do you right a wrong that you won't acknowledge?

Anonymous, having TT say she is very very sorry is like hearing Bill Clinton tell the nation he did not have sex with that woman. Telling people what they want to hear is easy, so she can save it. What we want to see is action. If she means that she is sorry, she'd better ante up and kick in to help bring Kimkins down.

You do err in assuming that TT has done nothing to hurt people personally. She has hurt many individuals. My beef with her is not about what she did at KK, it's what she did at LCF that had her banned, and what she did before that. This woman is evil, and anyone who does not believe that can have the pleasure of learning it the hard way. She didn't "make mistakes" at LCF. She stirred up trouble and lots of it. She sent e-mails and PMs to people about other people with the express intent to get people mad at each other. Then she got to stand back and watch the fireworks she created. She is still using high school tactics to cause trouble. What do I want her to do? I want her to disappear from the internet - find some other people's lives to mess with. We have had our fill of the drama that is called Tippy Toes, a.k.a. Jeannie Baitinger. As a very wise Admin at LCF said, "I forgive you - now go away!"

Medusa said...

anonymous:

It has been brought to my attention by a very astute reader that an expression used by Tippy recently, and on numerous occasions, is "Two wrongs don't make one right."

Ergo, anonymous = Tippy

And Tippy, the correct idiom is "Two wrongs don't make a right."

HTH

Sheridan said...

LMAO @ the "RADICAL HONESTY" comment.

Whew. That outta count for cardio for today.

"Laugh your way thin, the TT way"!

Mysstwalker said...

Salad Barbie's TippyToes Cheering section post has to be one of the funniest things I have ever read *snort*.

Princess Dieter said...

Looks like Tippy has her own version of gentlefawn. Or that's someone having a bit of fun with a Tip-fan persona. Hard to tell. This whole thing is so bizarre.

And I wouldn't be surprised of Anonymous is Tippy. She's adept at two-facedness.

The Princess

Salad bar b ie said...

A whole bunch of rights can make up for a whole bunch of wrongs! I believe in Tippy! And so do hundreds of millions of people! You'll see! Long Live the QUEEN OF LEAN! I don't know yet if she takes credit cards.

Saladbarbie said...

Anonymous is not Tippy! Anonymous is the Vice President of Team Tippy! At least I think that's who she is! Don't insult me by comparing me to FAWN! FAWN is NOT WHO HE PRETENDS TO BE! Besides I'm not FAWNING I'm CHEERING! Cheering for TIPPY! Whose END shall be better than her BEGINNING! Or WHATEVER!

saladbarbie said...

The AWFUL PLAGUE called OBESITY? Are you saying obesity is CONTAGIOUS? That's RIDICULOUS. You can't SNEEZE on somebody and make them OBESE. Which reminds me, I forgot to get some more Kleenex at WalMart.

mariasol said...

LOL, did someone bring out the booze early today.

Medusa said...

It appears that Captain Morgan is running amok.

Sheridan said...

If Salad Barbie doesn't write for the Onion, she should.

Anonymous said...

Tippy Toes personally hurt me. Tippy Toes bad mouthed me to several people and drove a wedge between me and others, then laughed about it. Tippy Toes told me things before she took the job at Kimkins. She is not exempt from blame because she joined the Kimkins team AFTER the fraud was confirmed. She knew Kimmer was a fraud but took the job anyway. She lied on TV in front of thousands of people and I can prove it. Tippy Toes will never get her reputation back because of everything she did. She was not scammed, she was one of the scammers. She has lied, played with people, pretended friendship and then backstabbed those friends. It will be very hard to forgive her. Do unto others as you will have those do unto you. Do you think Tippy wants us all to treat her as she has treated the people of LCF and Kimkins? I doubt it because frankly what shes done to people is reprehensible. Some of you were not recieving end of all the hateful things she had done, count yourself lucky.

If Tippy starts a site of her own then I hope it is a FREE site. If she charges then she is no better then Kimmer because I know its all about money for Tippy and if she does create a site for money I will come forward with everything that I know and she will be along side of Kimmer. Its funny how you say shes helped thousdands of people. Your head seems just as big as hers.

http://2big4mysize.wordpress.com/ said...

How can TT be answering questions if TT has commnets off? this is more like calling a press conference making a statement and then saying no comment to every question ask. TT isn't answering questions she is issuing press releases.

2BIG

saladbarbie said...

It is the perogative of CELEBRITIES to issue press releases. Just ask whatshisname. You know, the guy who used to be on that show.

Salad Barbie said...

The past was very bad. The present is bad. The FUTURE will be BETTER. Tippy is a WORK IN PROGRESS. So is everybody else. Except maybe George Bush who's a work in regress.

future member of Tippy's weightloss website said...

http://teamtippy.wordpress.com/

http://2big4mysize.wordpress.com/ said...

maybe if Tippy Toes would explain exactly how Kimkins.com following the kimkins guidelines can be safe over 800 cals that would help. If TT doesn't want to foul her blog with comments about that I'm happpy to host it on mine sample 920 cal nutrtionally bankrupt kimkins menu